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Meet the Guy Who Went Skydiving with Anthony Bourdain

Meet the Guy Who Went Skydiving with Anthony Bourdain

Back in November, Gilt City was selling a chance to skydive with food personality Anthony Bourdain, and while many may have scoffed at the $10,000 price tag (though proceeds went to the Food Bank of New York City), one person didn't.

Duncan Dee, chief operating officer of Air Canada, decided to splurge on the deal, and last Saturday Dee and Bourdain jumped off a plane 10,000 feet in the air.

"I’m completely afraid of heights so this was something I never thought I would do," Dee told us over the phone. "But my biggest fear beyond the height was being called a wuss by Anthony Bourdain."

For Dee's first time, he was strapped onto a skydiving instructor ("I like Bourdain a lot but I’m not sure I’d want to be strapped onto him jumping off a plane," he told us), and did a free fall the first 30 seconds before pulling the parachute.

And while Dee was completely terrified on the ride up, Bourdain was more excited, Dee told us. Granted, this was apparently Bourdain's third tandem jump. "He told me beforehand that the biggest let down was when they pulled the shoot because that would slow down the descent," Dee said. "This is the guy who jumps out of a building in Macau for one of his shows. He was trying to tell me that that was more freaky than jumping out of a plane at 10,000 feet."

The second half of the adventure involved burgers, hot dogs, and beer at Bourdain's standby Hiram's Roadstand for a late lunch. The Bourdain you may not know? "He spent a lot of time talking about his wife and daughter," Dee told us. "It’s really a side you don’t hear about that often, but he’s incredibly easy to talk to, and not as sarcastic as his on-air persona. I’m probably destroying his on-air reputation."

$10,000 is still kind of pricey in our book, but hey, it does go toward the Food Bank of New York City (a win-win). "If an opportunity like this came up again I’d do in a heartbeat," Dee said. So much for being afraid of heights.

Jessica Chou is an associate editor at The Daily Meal. Follow her on Twitter @jesschou.


Zoe Lister-Jones made ‘Band Aid’ with an all-female crew. Your move, Hollywood

Zoe Lister-Jones is 34 years old and has been married for four years. Which means that when she&rsquos at a party, basically every conversation starts with the same question: &ldquoWhen are you going to have kids?&rdquo

&ldquoWe&rsquore getting there,&rdquo she&rsquoll answer, smiling politely. But being childless and in her 30s sometimes makes her feel like a pariah. A few weeks ago, she went to a kid&rsquos birthday party, and she was one of only two women there without offspring.

&ldquoIt&rsquos hard, because there&rsquos a part of me that feels like because I can&rsquot relate to their stage in life, that I&rsquom not bringing something to the table,&rdquo she says. &ldquoI&rsquom such a workhorse that I&rsquove always prioritized my work, and as a woman, that&rsquos a really different thing.&rdquo

This is the very conundrum at the heart of Lister-Jones&rsquo new movie, her directorial debut &ldquoBand Aid.&rdquo The film &mdash which she also stars in and wrote &mdash is about a couple trying to move past the devastation of a miscarriage just as their friends are starting families. But there&rsquos so much unspoken pain between the husband and wife that they begin to fight constantly. So in an effort to curb the bickering, they start a garage band called &ldquoThe Dirty Dishes&rdquo and use the lyrics to vent their marital frustrations.

Zoe Lister-Jones as Anna and Adam Pally as Ben in "Band Aid." (Jacqueline DiMilia / IFC Films)

Lister-Jones hasn&rsquot said just how much of the film comes from personal experience, which is unusual for her because nearly every script she&rsquos written thus far has been autobiographical. Her first feature screenplay, 2010&rsquos &ldquoBreaking Upwards,&rdquo was about the yearlong period when she and her husband, fellow actor and filmmaker Daryl Wein, decided to have an open relationship. The real-life couple co-starred in the film, in which their characters&rsquo names were Daryl and Zoe.

&ldquoBand Aid&rdquo is the first movie Lister-Jones has made without her spouse, whom she met when they were both students at NYU&rsquos Tisch School of the Arts 13 years ago. Wein did serve as an executive producer on the movie, but was barely ever on set. Many of the fights in their own marriage, Lister-Jones says, were beginning to stem from the lack of separation between work and home life.

&ldquoThere was no place that the work ended and our life began,&rdquo she explains, as Wein makes himself dinner in their kitchen, just out of earshot. &ldquoI think this has been a nice respite for both of us. We can give each other notes and watch cuts, but it&rsquos not all-consuming in our daily lives together.&rdquo

Since decamping from Brooklyn&rsquos Fort Greene a few years ago, the couple have been living in a Studio City post-and-beam that&rsquos ripe for a home design magazine tour. Lister-Jones has multiple pairs of custom No.6 clogs by the door. The books in the built-in shelves are organized by color. White sheepskin throws abound. There&rsquos even tumbleweed the couple picked up in the desert during a trip to Joshua Tree that now serves as a piece of avant-garde art.

Their Instagram accounts project an even more enviable lifestyle. In April, they embarked on a road trip across the Southwest, shacking up in rustic ranch cabins and skydiving over the Moab Desert. Wein took numerous photos of his wife wearing oversized hats and bandanas, the majestic Red Rocks rising behind her.

There are no pictures of dirty dishes. But that doesn&rsquot mean they don&rsquot still stack up in the sink sometimes.

&ldquoNow we&rsquore able to share those duties, but we&rsquore 13 years in,&rdquo she says, curling under a blanket on the couch. &ldquoI think it does take time for men and women to learn how to share a space, and a lot of that comes from social condition and patriarchal values that are intrinsic in the way we&rsquore raised. A lot of boys are raised with their mom doing their laundry and dishes and getting away with a lot more than little girls can.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones at home in Studio City. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Growing up in New York, Lister-Jones was raised a staunch feminist. In the fourth grade, she had a school assignment to create her own business. She decided to form an all-female construction company: Big Women Construction.

&ldquoI think it&rsquos been this thing that has always been cellular in me,&rdquo she says, &ldquothat I wanted to create art or something in a collective of women.&rdquo

So when it came time to put together the crew for &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo Lister-Jones decided she wanted to work alongside a group of women. But she knew it would be a challenge to pull together a female production team with enough experience to make &ldquodepartment heads comfortable on a movie of this scale.&rdquo

&ldquoWhich is a total Catch-22,&rdquo she adds. &ldquoBut I wanted to confront that head-on and take risks with some crew members who maybe had less experience, because otherwise, how are these women going to get the experience to begin with?&rdquo

&ldquoThere was a part of me that was interested in subverting a paradigm in order to challenge a system that is really broken,&rdquo she continues. &ldquoEven though there&rsquos been a lot of dialogue around the underrepresentation of women crews, the numbers aren&rsquot changing. In fact, they&rsquore getting worse. I just felt like since I was in a position to do so, it was kind of my duty to.&rdquo

Alongside producer Natalia Anderson &mdash whom Lister-Jones met at work on the set of &ldquoLife in Pieces,&rdquo the CBS family drama she&rsquos been on for two seasons &mdash the filmmaker set out to hire roughly 40 women. It was part of the pitch package she presented to financiers who were considering putting up the film&rsquos budget, a sum Lister-Jones said was less than $5 million.

&ldquoIt was definitely challenging,&rdquo Anderson agrees. &ldquoBut between the two of us, we used all the production resources at our fingertips &mdash posting on job boards for women in film and taking advantage of every relationship we had. But Zoe was never crazed. She handled it with such grace and focus.&rdquo

As a result, the vibe on-set was so &ldquocalm and quiet and efficient,&rdquo Lister-Jones said, that the few male actors kept saying how wonderful they felt surrounded by women. Adam Pally, who plays the actress&rsquo husband in the film, even felt more comfortable getting naked during the sex scenes because he &ldquofelt less judged.&rdquo

&ldquoYeah, I loved this. Men are terrible. We&rsquore the worst,&rdquo Pally said, only partially kidding. &ldquoI&rsquove been telling people since I did this movie that now, all men sound like animated germs in flu commercials to me.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Since the work was acquired by IFC Films after its debut at the Sundance Film Festival in January, Lister-Jones has been asked to take an increasing number of Hollywood meetings. She&rsquos noticed that there seems to be &ldquomore of a mandate&rdquo to hire female directors within the studio system, which she finds encouraging. But everyone keeps asking what she&rsquos going to do next. Fortunately, she&rsquos &ldquovery much a &lsquowhat&rsquos next&rsquo person,&rdquo and is already planning to direct another one of her scripts &mdash one she hasn&rsquot even written yet &mdash next March when she&rsquos on hiatus from &ldquoLife in Pieces.&rdquo

The idea of actually taking a hiatus during her hiatus, however, scares her. Growing up, her mother was a video artist and her father was a conceptual photographer &mdash and both had teaching gigs on the side. &ldquoSo I always thought it was an impossibility to make a livelihood from your art,&rdquo she says. &ldquoThat&rsquos such a trigger from my childhood.&rdquo

In fact, when she was accepted into the conservatory acting program at Tisch, she was reluctant to take the spot because she &ldquowas always apprehensive about putting all of [her] eggs in one basket.&rdquo Which explains, somewhat, why she is continually trying on new hats: Actress, writer, director and, in &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo musician.

&ldquoWhen you&rsquore at a certain stage in your career,&rdquo she says, &ldquoit&rsquos hard to not feel like, &lsquoI hit this benchmark but there&rsquos this other benchmark in the distance and now I have to hit that one.&rsquo When do you decide it&rsquos OK to maybe live in this moment rather than anticipating the next?&rdquo


Zoe Lister-Jones made ‘Band Aid’ with an all-female crew. Your move, Hollywood

Zoe Lister-Jones is 34 years old and has been married for four years. Which means that when she&rsquos at a party, basically every conversation starts with the same question: &ldquoWhen are you going to have kids?&rdquo

&ldquoWe&rsquore getting there,&rdquo she&rsquoll answer, smiling politely. But being childless and in her 30s sometimes makes her feel like a pariah. A few weeks ago, she went to a kid&rsquos birthday party, and she was one of only two women there without offspring.

&ldquoIt&rsquos hard, because there&rsquos a part of me that feels like because I can&rsquot relate to their stage in life, that I&rsquom not bringing something to the table,&rdquo she says. &ldquoI&rsquom such a workhorse that I&rsquove always prioritized my work, and as a woman, that&rsquos a really different thing.&rdquo

This is the very conundrum at the heart of Lister-Jones&rsquo new movie, her directorial debut &ldquoBand Aid.&rdquo The film &mdash which she also stars in and wrote &mdash is about a couple trying to move past the devastation of a miscarriage just as their friends are starting families. But there&rsquos so much unspoken pain between the husband and wife that they begin to fight constantly. So in an effort to curb the bickering, they start a garage band called &ldquoThe Dirty Dishes&rdquo and use the lyrics to vent their marital frustrations.

Zoe Lister-Jones as Anna and Adam Pally as Ben in "Band Aid." (Jacqueline DiMilia / IFC Films)

Lister-Jones hasn&rsquot said just how much of the film comes from personal experience, which is unusual for her because nearly every script she&rsquos written thus far has been autobiographical. Her first feature screenplay, 2010&rsquos &ldquoBreaking Upwards,&rdquo was about the yearlong period when she and her husband, fellow actor and filmmaker Daryl Wein, decided to have an open relationship. The real-life couple co-starred in the film, in which their characters&rsquo names were Daryl and Zoe.

&ldquoBand Aid&rdquo is the first movie Lister-Jones has made without her spouse, whom she met when they were both students at NYU&rsquos Tisch School of the Arts 13 years ago. Wein did serve as an executive producer on the movie, but was barely ever on set. Many of the fights in their own marriage, Lister-Jones says, were beginning to stem from the lack of separation between work and home life.

&ldquoThere was no place that the work ended and our life began,&rdquo she explains, as Wein makes himself dinner in their kitchen, just out of earshot. &ldquoI think this has been a nice respite for both of us. We can give each other notes and watch cuts, but it&rsquos not all-consuming in our daily lives together.&rdquo

Since decamping from Brooklyn&rsquos Fort Greene a few years ago, the couple have been living in a Studio City post-and-beam that&rsquos ripe for a home design magazine tour. Lister-Jones has multiple pairs of custom No.6 clogs by the door. The books in the built-in shelves are organized by color. White sheepskin throws abound. There&rsquos even tumbleweed the couple picked up in the desert during a trip to Joshua Tree that now serves as a piece of avant-garde art.

Their Instagram accounts project an even more enviable lifestyle. In April, they embarked on a road trip across the Southwest, shacking up in rustic ranch cabins and skydiving over the Moab Desert. Wein took numerous photos of his wife wearing oversized hats and bandanas, the majestic Red Rocks rising behind her.

There are no pictures of dirty dishes. But that doesn&rsquot mean they don&rsquot still stack up in the sink sometimes.

&ldquoNow we&rsquore able to share those duties, but we&rsquore 13 years in,&rdquo she says, curling under a blanket on the couch. &ldquoI think it does take time for men and women to learn how to share a space, and a lot of that comes from social condition and patriarchal values that are intrinsic in the way we&rsquore raised. A lot of boys are raised with their mom doing their laundry and dishes and getting away with a lot more than little girls can.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones at home in Studio City. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Growing up in New York, Lister-Jones was raised a staunch feminist. In the fourth grade, she had a school assignment to create her own business. She decided to form an all-female construction company: Big Women Construction.

&ldquoI think it&rsquos been this thing that has always been cellular in me,&rdquo she says, &ldquothat I wanted to create art or something in a collective of women.&rdquo

So when it came time to put together the crew for &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo Lister-Jones decided she wanted to work alongside a group of women. But she knew it would be a challenge to pull together a female production team with enough experience to make &ldquodepartment heads comfortable on a movie of this scale.&rdquo

&ldquoWhich is a total Catch-22,&rdquo she adds. &ldquoBut I wanted to confront that head-on and take risks with some crew members who maybe had less experience, because otherwise, how are these women going to get the experience to begin with?&rdquo

&ldquoThere was a part of me that was interested in subverting a paradigm in order to challenge a system that is really broken,&rdquo she continues. &ldquoEven though there&rsquos been a lot of dialogue around the underrepresentation of women crews, the numbers aren&rsquot changing. In fact, they&rsquore getting worse. I just felt like since I was in a position to do so, it was kind of my duty to.&rdquo

Alongside producer Natalia Anderson &mdash whom Lister-Jones met at work on the set of &ldquoLife in Pieces,&rdquo the CBS family drama she&rsquos been on for two seasons &mdash the filmmaker set out to hire roughly 40 women. It was part of the pitch package she presented to financiers who were considering putting up the film&rsquos budget, a sum Lister-Jones said was less than $5 million.

&ldquoIt was definitely challenging,&rdquo Anderson agrees. &ldquoBut between the two of us, we used all the production resources at our fingertips &mdash posting on job boards for women in film and taking advantage of every relationship we had. But Zoe was never crazed. She handled it with such grace and focus.&rdquo

As a result, the vibe on-set was so &ldquocalm and quiet and efficient,&rdquo Lister-Jones said, that the few male actors kept saying how wonderful they felt surrounded by women. Adam Pally, who plays the actress&rsquo husband in the film, even felt more comfortable getting naked during the sex scenes because he &ldquofelt less judged.&rdquo

&ldquoYeah, I loved this. Men are terrible. We&rsquore the worst,&rdquo Pally said, only partially kidding. &ldquoI&rsquove been telling people since I did this movie that now, all men sound like animated germs in flu commercials to me.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Since the work was acquired by IFC Films after its debut at the Sundance Film Festival in January, Lister-Jones has been asked to take an increasing number of Hollywood meetings. She&rsquos noticed that there seems to be &ldquomore of a mandate&rdquo to hire female directors within the studio system, which she finds encouraging. But everyone keeps asking what she&rsquos going to do next. Fortunately, she&rsquos &ldquovery much a &lsquowhat&rsquos next&rsquo person,&rdquo and is already planning to direct another one of her scripts &mdash one she hasn&rsquot even written yet &mdash next March when she&rsquos on hiatus from &ldquoLife in Pieces.&rdquo

The idea of actually taking a hiatus during her hiatus, however, scares her. Growing up, her mother was a video artist and her father was a conceptual photographer &mdash and both had teaching gigs on the side. &ldquoSo I always thought it was an impossibility to make a livelihood from your art,&rdquo she says. &ldquoThat&rsquos such a trigger from my childhood.&rdquo

In fact, when she was accepted into the conservatory acting program at Tisch, she was reluctant to take the spot because she &ldquowas always apprehensive about putting all of [her] eggs in one basket.&rdquo Which explains, somewhat, why she is continually trying on new hats: Actress, writer, director and, in &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo musician.

&ldquoWhen you&rsquore at a certain stage in your career,&rdquo she says, &ldquoit&rsquos hard to not feel like, &lsquoI hit this benchmark but there&rsquos this other benchmark in the distance and now I have to hit that one.&rsquo When do you decide it&rsquos OK to maybe live in this moment rather than anticipating the next?&rdquo


Zoe Lister-Jones made ‘Band Aid’ with an all-female crew. Your move, Hollywood

Zoe Lister-Jones is 34 years old and has been married for four years. Which means that when she&rsquos at a party, basically every conversation starts with the same question: &ldquoWhen are you going to have kids?&rdquo

&ldquoWe&rsquore getting there,&rdquo she&rsquoll answer, smiling politely. But being childless and in her 30s sometimes makes her feel like a pariah. A few weeks ago, she went to a kid&rsquos birthday party, and she was one of only two women there without offspring.

&ldquoIt&rsquos hard, because there&rsquos a part of me that feels like because I can&rsquot relate to their stage in life, that I&rsquom not bringing something to the table,&rdquo she says. &ldquoI&rsquom such a workhorse that I&rsquove always prioritized my work, and as a woman, that&rsquos a really different thing.&rdquo

This is the very conundrum at the heart of Lister-Jones&rsquo new movie, her directorial debut &ldquoBand Aid.&rdquo The film &mdash which she also stars in and wrote &mdash is about a couple trying to move past the devastation of a miscarriage just as their friends are starting families. But there&rsquos so much unspoken pain between the husband and wife that they begin to fight constantly. So in an effort to curb the bickering, they start a garage band called &ldquoThe Dirty Dishes&rdquo and use the lyrics to vent their marital frustrations.

Zoe Lister-Jones as Anna and Adam Pally as Ben in "Band Aid." (Jacqueline DiMilia / IFC Films)

Lister-Jones hasn&rsquot said just how much of the film comes from personal experience, which is unusual for her because nearly every script she&rsquos written thus far has been autobiographical. Her first feature screenplay, 2010&rsquos &ldquoBreaking Upwards,&rdquo was about the yearlong period when she and her husband, fellow actor and filmmaker Daryl Wein, decided to have an open relationship. The real-life couple co-starred in the film, in which their characters&rsquo names were Daryl and Zoe.

&ldquoBand Aid&rdquo is the first movie Lister-Jones has made without her spouse, whom she met when they were both students at NYU&rsquos Tisch School of the Arts 13 years ago. Wein did serve as an executive producer on the movie, but was barely ever on set. Many of the fights in their own marriage, Lister-Jones says, were beginning to stem from the lack of separation between work and home life.

&ldquoThere was no place that the work ended and our life began,&rdquo she explains, as Wein makes himself dinner in their kitchen, just out of earshot. &ldquoI think this has been a nice respite for both of us. We can give each other notes and watch cuts, but it&rsquos not all-consuming in our daily lives together.&rdquo

Since decamping from Brooklyn&rsquos Fort Greene a few years ago, the couple have been living in a Studio City post-and-beam that&rsquos ripe for a home design magazine tour. Lister-Jones has multiple pairs of custom No.6 clogs by the door. The books in the built-in shelves are organized by color. White sheepskin throws abound. There&rsquos even tumbleweed the couple picked up in the desert during a trip to Joshua Tree that now serves as a piece of avant-garde art.

Their Instagram accounts project an even more enviable lifestyle. In April, they embarked on a road trip across the Southwest, shacking up in rustic ranch cabins and skydiving over the Moab Desert. Wein took numerous photos of his wife wearing oversized hats and bandanas, the majestic Red Rocks rising behind her.

There are no pictures of dirty dishes. But that doesn&rsquot mean they don&rsquot still stack up in the sink sometimes.

&ldquoNow we&rsquore able to share those duties, but we&rsquore 13 years in,&rdquo she says, curling under a blanket on the couch. &ldquoI think it does take time for men and women to learn how to share a space, and a lot of that comes from social condition and patriarchal values that are intrinsic in the way we&rsquore raised. A lot of boys are raised with their mom doing their laundry and dishes and getting away with a lot more than little girls can.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones at home in Studio City. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Growing up in New York, Lister-Jones was raised a staunch feminist. In the fourth grade, she had a school assignment to create her own business. She decided to form an all-female construction company: Big Women Construction.

&ldquoI think it&rsquos been this thing that has always been cellular in me,&rdquo she says, &ldquothat I wanted to create art or something in a collective of women.&rdquo

So when it came time to put together the crew for &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo Lister-Jones decided she wanted to work alongside a group of women. But she knew it would be a challenge to pull together a female production team with enough experience to make &ldquodepartment heads comfortable on a movie of this scale.&rdquo

&ldquoWhich is a total Catch-22,&rdquo she adds. &ldquoBut I wanted to confront that head-on and take risks with some crew members who maybe had less experience, because otherwise, how are these women going to get the experience to begin with?&rdquo

&ldquoThere was a part of me that was interested in subverting a paradigm in order to challenge a system that is really broken,&rdquo she continues. &ldquoEven though there&rsquos been a lot of dialogue around the underrepresentation of women crews, the numbers aren&rsquot changing. In fact, they&rsquore getting worse. I just felt like since I was in a position to do so, it was kind of my duty to.&rdquo

Alongside producer Natalia Anderson &mdash whom Lister-Jones met at work on the set of &ldquoLife in Pieces,&rdquo the CBS family drama she&rsquos been on for two seasons &mdash the filmmaker set out to hire roughly 40 women. It was part of the pitch package she presented to financiers who were considering putting up the film&rsquos budget, a sum Lister-Jones said was less than $5 million.

&ldquoIt was definitely challenging,&rdquo Anderson agrees. &ldquoBut between the two of us, we used all the production resources at our fingertips &mdash posting on job boards for women in film and taking advantage of every relationship we had. But Zoe was never crazed. She handled it with such grace and focus.&rdquo

As a result, the vibe on-set was so &ldquocalm and quiet and efficient,&rdquo Lister-Jones said, that the few male actors kept saying how wonderful they felt surrounded by women. Adam Pally, who plays the actress&rsquo husband in the film, even felt more comfortable getting naked during the sex scenes because he &ldquofelt less judged.&rdquo

&ldquoYeah, I loved this. Men are terrible. We&rsquore the worst,&rdquo Pally said, only partially kidding. &ldquoI&rsquove been telling people since I did this movie that now, all men sound like animated germs in flu commercials to me.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Since the work was acquired by IFC Films after its debut at the Sundance Film Festival in January, Lister-Jones has been asked to take an increasing number of Hollywood meetings. She&rsquos noticed that there seems to be &ldquomore of a mandate&rdquo to hire female directors within the studio system, which she finds encouraging. But everyone keeps asking what she&rsquos going to do next. Fortunately, she&rsquos &ldquovery much a &lsquowhat&rsquos next&rsquo person,&rdquo and is already planning to direct another one of her scripts &mdash one she hasn&rsquot even written yet &mdash next March when she&rsquos on hiatus from &ldquoLife in Pieces.&rdquo

The idea of actually taking a hiatus during her hiatus, however, scares her. Growing up, her mother was a video artist and her father was a conceptual photographer &mdash and both had teaching gigs on the side. &ldquoSo I always thought it was an impossibility to make a livelihood from your art,&rdquo she says. &ldquoThat&rsquos such a trigger from my childhood.&rdquo

In fact, when she was accepted into the conservatory acting program at Tisch, she was reluctant to take the spot because she &ldquowas always apprehensive about putting all of [her] eggs in one basket.&rdquo Which explains, somewhat, why she is continually trying on new hats: Actress, writer, director and, in &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo musician.

&ldquoWhen you&rsquore at a certain stage in your career,&rdquo she says, &ldquoit&rsquos hard to not feel like, &lsquoI hit this benchmark but there&rsquos this other benchmark in the distance and now I have to hit that one.&rsquo When do you decide it&rsquos OK to maybe live in this moment rather than anticipating the next?&rdquo


Zoe Lister-Jones made ‘Band Aid’ with an all-female crew. Your move, Hollywood

Zoe Lister-Jones is 34 years old and has been married for four years. Which means that when she&rsquos at a party, basically every conversation starts with the same question: &ldquoWhen are you going to have kids?&rdquo

&ldquoWe&rsquore getting there,&rdquo she&rsquoll answer, smiling politely. But being childless and in her 30s sometimes makes her feel like a pariah. A few weeks ago, she went to a kid&rsquos birthday party, and she was one of only two women there without offspring.

&ldquoIt&rsquos hard, because there&rsquos a part of me that feels like because I can&rsquot relate to their stage in life, that I&rsquom not bringing something to the table,&rdquo she says. &ldquoI&rsquom such a workhorse that I&rsquove always prioritized my work, and as a woman, that&rsquos a really different thing.&rdquo

This is the very conundrum at the heart of Lister-Jones&rsquo new movie, her directorial debut &ldquoBand Aid.&rdquo The film &mdash which she also stars in and wrote &mdash is about a couple trying to move past the devastation of a miscarriage just as their friends are starting families. But there&rsquos so much unspoken pain between the husband and wife that they begin to fight constantly. So in an effort to curb the bickering, they start a garage band called &ldquoThe Dirty Dishes&rdquo and use the lyrics to vent their marital frustrations.

Zoe Lister-Jones as Anna and Adam Pally as Ben in "Band Aid." (Jacqueline DiMilia / IFC Films)

Lister-Jones hasn&rsquot said just how much of the film comes from personal experience, which is unusual for her because nearly every script she&rsquos written thus far has been autobiographical. Her first feature screenplay, 2010&rsquos &ldquoBreaking Upwards,&rdquo was about the yearlong period when she and her husband, fellow actor and filmmaker Daryl Wein, decided to have an open relationship. The real-life couple co-starred in the film, in which their characters&rsquo names were Daryl and Zoe.

&ldquoBand Aid&rdquo is the first movie Lister-Jones has made without her spouse, whom she met when they were both students at NYU&rsquos Tisch School of the Arts 13 years ago. Wein did serve as an executive producer on the movie, but was barely ever on set. Many of the fights in their own marriage, Lister-Jones says, were beginning to stem from the lack of separation between work and home life.

&ldquoThere was no place that the work ended and our life began,&rdquo she explains, as Wein makes himself dinner in their kitchen, just out of earshot. &ldquoI think this has been a nice respite for both of us. We can give each other notes and watch cuts, but it&rsquos not all-consuming in our daily lives together.&rdquo

Since decamping from Brooklyn&rsquos Fort Greene a few years ago, the couple have been living in a Studio City post-and-beam that&rsquos ripe for a home design magazine tour. Lister-Jones has multiple pairs of custom No.6 clogs by the door. The books in the built-in shelves are organized by color. White sheepskin throws abound. There&rsquos even tumbleweed the couple picked up in the desert during a trip to Joshua Tree that now serves as a piece of avant-garde art.

Their Instagram accounts project an even more enviable lifestyle. In April, they embarked on a road trip across the Southwest, shacking up in rustic ranch cabins and skydiving over the Moab Desert. Wein took numerous photos of his wife wearing oversized hats and bandanas, the majestic Red Rocks rising behind her.

There are no pictures of dirty dishes. But that doesn&rsquot mean they don&rsquot still stack up in the sink sometimes.

&ldquoNow we&rsquore able to share those duties, but we&rsquore 13 years in,&rdquo she says, curling under a blanket on the couch. &ldquoI think it does take time for men and women to learn how to share a space, and a lot of that comes from social condition and patriarchal values that are intrinsic in the way we&rsquore raised. A lot of boys are raised with their mom doing their laundry and dishes and getting away with a lot more than little girls can.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones at home in Studio City. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Growing up in New York, Lister-Jones was raised a staunch feminist. In the fourth grade, she had a school assignment to create her own business. She decided to form an all-female construction company: Big Women Construction.

&ldquoI think it&rsquos been this thing that has always been cellular in me,&rdquo she says, &ldquothat I wanted to create art or something in a collective of women.&rdquo

So when it came time to put together the crew for &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo Lister-Jones decided she wanted to work alongside a group of women. But she knew it would be a challenge to pull together a female production team with enough experience to make &ldquodepartment heads comfortable on a movie of this scale.&rdquo

&ldquoWhich is a total Catch-22,&rdquo she adds. &ldquoBut I wanted to confront that head-on and take risks with some crew members who maybe had less experience, because otherwise, how are these women going to get the experience to begin with?&rdquo

&ldquoThere was a part of me that was interested in subverting a paradigm in order to challenge a system that is really broken,&rdquo she continues. &ldquoEven though there&rsquos been a lot of dialogue around the underrepresentation of women crews, the numbers aren&rsquot changing. In fact, they&rsquore getting worse. I just felt like since I was in a position to do so, it was kind of my duty to.&rdquo

Alongside producer Natalia Anderson &mdash whom Lister-Jones met at work on the set of &ldquoLife in Pieces,&rdquo the CBS family drama she&rsquos been on for two seasons &mdash the filmmaker set out to hire roughly 40 women. It was part of the pitch package she presented to financiers who were considering putting up the film&rsquos budget, a sum Lister-Jones said was less than $5 million.

&ldquoIt was definitely challenging,&rdquo Anderson agrees. &ldquoBut between the two of us, we used all the production resources at our fingertips &mdash posting on job boards for women in film and taking advantage of every relationship we had. But Zoe was never crazed. She handled it with such grace and focus.&rdquo

As a result, the vibe on-set was so &ldquocalm and quiet and efficient,&rdquo Lister-Jones said, that the few male actors kept saying how wonderful they felt surrounded by women. Adam Pally, who plays the actress&rsquo husband in the film, even felt more comfortable getting naked during the sex scenes because he &ldquofelt less judged.&rdquo

&ldquoYeah, I loved this. Men are terrible. We&rsquore the worst,&rdquo Pally said, only partially kidding. &ldquoI&rsquove been telling people since I did this movie that now, all men sound like animated germs in flu commercials to me.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Since the work was acquired by IFC Films after its debut at the Sundance Film Festival in January, Lister-Jones has been asked to take an increasing number of Hollywood meetings. She&rsquos noticed that there seems to be &ldquomore of a mandate&rdquo to hire female directors within the studio system, which she finds encouraging. But everyone keeps asking what she&rsquos going to do next. Fortunately, she&rsquos &ldquovery much a &lsquowhat&rsquos next&rsquo person,&rdquo and is already planning to direct another one of her scripts &mdash one she hasn&rsquot even written yet &mdash next March when she&rsquos on hiatus from &ldquoLife in Pieces.&rdquo

The idea of actually taking a hiatus during her hiatus, however, scares her. Growing up, her mother was a video artist and her father was a conceptual photographer &mdash and both had teaching gigs on the side. &ldquoSo I always thought it was an impossibility to make a livelihood from your art,&rdquo she says. &ldquoThat&rsquos such a trigger from my childhood.&rdquo

In fact, when she was accepted into the conservatory acting program at Tisch, she was reluctant to take the spot because she &ldquowas always apprehensive about putting all of [her] eggs in one basket.&rdquo Which explains, somewhat, why she is continually trying on new hats: Actress, writer, director and, in &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo musician.

&ldquoWhen you&rsquore at a certain stage in your career,&rdquo she says, &ldquoit&rsquos hard to not feel like, &lsquoI hit this benchmark but there&rsquos this other benchmark in the distance and now I have to hit that one.&rsquo When do you decide it&rsquos OK to maybe live in this moment rather than anticipating the next?&rdquo


Zoe Lister-Jones made ‘Band Aid’ with an all-female crew. Your move, Hollywood

Zoe Lister-Jones is 34 years old and has been married for four years. Which means that when she&rsquos at a party, basically every conversation starts with the same question: &ldquoWhen are you going to have kids?&rdquo

&ldquoWe&rsquore getting there,&rdquo she&rsquoll answer, smiling politely. But being childless and in her 30s sometimes makes her feel like a pariah. A few weeks ago, she went to a kid&rsquos birthday party, and she was one of only two women there without offspring.

&ldquoIt&rsquos hard, because there&rsquos a part of me that feels like because I can&rsquot relate to their stage in life, that I&rsquom not bringing something to the table,&rdquo she says. &ldquoI&rsquom such a workhorse that I&rsquove always prioritized my work, and as a woman, that&rsquos a really different thing.&rdquo

This is the very conundrum at the heart of Lister-Jones&rsquo new movie, her directorial debut &ldquoBand Aid.&rdquo The film &mdash which she also stars in and wrote &mdash is about a couple trying to move past the devastation of a miscarriage just as their friends are starting families. But there&rsquos so much unspoken pain between the husband and wife that they begin to fight constantly. So in an effort to curb the bickering, they start a garage band called &ldquoThe Dirty Dishes&rdquo and use the lyrics to vent their marital frustrations.

Zoe Lister-Jones as Anna and Adam Pally as Ben in "Band Aid." (Jacqueline DiMilia / IFC Films)

Lister-Jones hasn&rsquot said just how much of the film comes from personal experience, which is unusual for her because nearly every script she&rsquos written thus far has been autobiographical. Her first feature screenplay, 2010&rsquos &ldquoBreaking Upwards,&rdquo was about the yearlong period when she and her husband, fellow actor and filmmaker Daryl Wein, decided to have an open relationship. The real-life couple co-starred in the film, in which their characters&rsquo names were Daryl and Zoe.

&ldquoBand Aid&rdquo is the first movie Lister-Jones has made without her spouse, whom she met when they were both students at NYU&rsquos Tisch School of the Arts 13 years ago. Wein did serve as an executive producer on the movie, but was barely ever on set. Many of the fights in their own marriage, Lister-Jones says, were beginning to stem from the lack of separation between work and home life.

&ldquoThere was no place that the work ended and our life began,&rdquo she explains, as Wein makes himself dinner in their kitchen, just out of earshot. &ldquoI think this has been a nice respite for both of us. We can give each other notes and watch cuts, but it&rsquos not all-consuming in our daily lives together.&rdquo

Since decamping from Brooklyn&rsquos Fort Greene a few years ago, the couple have been living in a Studio City post-and-beam that&rsquos ripe for a home design magazine tour. Lister-Jones has multiple pairs of custom No.6 clogs by the door. The books in the built-in shelves are organized by color. White sheepskin throws abound. There&rsquos even tumbleweed the couple picked up in the desert during a trip to Joshua Tree that now serves as a piece of avant-garde art.

Their Instagram accounts project an even more enviable lifestyle. In April, they embarked on a road trip across the Southwest, shacking up in rustic ranch cabins and skydiving over the Moab Desert. Wein took numerous photos of his wife wearing oversized hats and bandanas, the majestic Red Rocks rising behind her.

There are no pictures of dirty dishes. But that doesn&rsquot mean they don&rsquot still stack up in the sink sometimes.

&ldquoNow we&rsquore able to share those duties, but we&rsquore 13 years in,&rdquo she says, curling under a blanket on the couch. &ldquoI think it does take time for men and women to learn how to share a space, and a lot of that comes from social condition and patriarchal values that are intrinsic in the way we&rsquore raised. A lot of boys are raised with their mom doing their laundry and dishes and getting away with a lot more than little girls can.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones at home in Studio City. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Growing up in New York, Lister-Jones was raised a staunch feminist. In the fourth grade, she had a school assignment to create her own business. She decided to form an all-female construction company: Big Women Construction.

&ldquoI think it&rsquos been this thing that has always been cellular in me,&rdquo she says, &ldquothat I wanted to create art or something in a collective of women.&rdquo

So when it came time to put together the crew for &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo Lister-Jones decided she wanted to work alongside a group of women. But she knew it would be a challenge to pull together a female production team with enough experience to make &ldquodepartment heads comfortable on a movie of this scale.&rdquo

&ldquoWhich is a total Catch-22,&rdquo she adds. &ldquoBut I wanted to confront that head-on and take risks with some crew members who maybe had less experience, because otherwise, how are these women going to get the experience to begin with?&rdquo

&ldquoThere was a part of me that was interested in subverting a paradigm in order to challenge a system that is really broken,&rdquo she continues. &ldquoEven though there&rsquos been a lot of dialogue around the underrepresentation of women crews, the numbers aren&rsquot changing. In fact, they&rsquore getting worse. I just felt like since I was in a position to do so, it was kind of my duty to.&rdquo

Alongside producer Natalia Anderson &mdash whom Lister-Jones met at work on the set of &ldquoLife in Pieces,&rdquo the CBS family drama she&rsquos been on for two seasons &mdash the filmmaker set out to hire roughly 40 women. It was part of the pitch package she presented to financiers who were considering putting up the film&rsquos budget, a sum Lister-Jones said was less than $5 million.

&ldquoIt was definitely challenging,&rdquo Anderson agrees. &ldquoBut between the two of us, we used all the production resources at our fingertips &mdash posting on job boards for women in film and taking advantage of every relationship we had. But Zoe was never crazed. She handled it with such grace and focus.&rdquo

As a result, the vibe on-set was so &ldquocalm and quiet and efficient,&rdquo Lister-Jones said, that the few male actors kept saying how wonderful they felt surrounded by women. Adam Pally, who plays the actress&rsquo husband in the film, even felt more comfortable getting naked during the sex scenes because he &ldquofelt less judged.&rdquo

&ldquoYeah, I loved this. Men are terrible. We&rsquore the worst,&rdquo Pally said, only partially kidding. &ldquoI&rsquove been telling people since I did this movie that now, all men sound like animated germs in flu commercials to me.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Since the work was acquired by IFC Films after its debut at the Sundance Film Festival in January, Lister-Jones has been asked to take an increasing number of Hollywood meetings. She&rsquos noticed that there seems to be &ldquomore of a mandate&rdquo to hire female directors within the studio system, which she finds encouraging. But everyone keeps asking what she&rsquos going to do next. Fortunately, she&rsquos &ldquovery much a &lsquowhat&rsquos next&rsquo person,&rdquo and is already planning to direct another one of her scripts &mdash one she hasn&rsquot even written yet &mdash next March when she&rsquos on hiatus from &ldquoLife in Pieces.&rdquo

The idea of actually taking a hiatus during her hiatus, however, scares her. Growing up, her mother was a video artist and her father was a conceptual photographer &mdash and both had teaching gigs on the side. &ldquoSo I always thought it was an impossibility to make a livelihood from your art,&rdquo she says. &ldquoThat&rsquos such a trigger from my childhood.&rdquo

In fact, when she was accepted into the conservatory acting program at Tisch, she was reluctant to take the spot because she &ldquowas always apprehensive about putting all of [her] eggs in one basket.&rdquo Which explains, somewhat, why she is continually trying on new hats: Actress, writer, director and, in &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo musician.

&ldquoWhen you&rsquore at a certain stage in your career,&rdquo she says, &ldquoit&rsquos hard to not feel like, &lsquoI hit this benchmark but there&rsquos this other benchmark in the distance and now I have to hit that one.&rsquo When do you decide it&rsquos OK to maybe live in this moment rather than anticipating the next?&rdquo


Zoe Lister-Jones made ‘Band Aid’ with an all-female crew. Your move, Hollywood

Zoe Lister-Jones is 34 years old and has been married for four years. Which means that when she&rsquos at a party, basically every conversation starts with the same question: &ldquoWhen are you going to have kids?&rdquo

&ldquoWe&rsquore getting there,&rdquo she&rsquoll answer, smiling politely. But being childless and in her 30s sometimes makes her feel like a pariah. A few weeks ago, she went to a kid&rsquos birthday party, and she was one of only two women there without offspring.

&ldquoIt&rsquos hard, because there&rsquos a part of me that feels like because I can&rsquot relate to their stage in life, that I&rsquom not bringing something to the table,&rdquo she says. &ldquoI&rsquom such a workhorse that I&rsquove always prioritized my work, and as a woman, that&rsquos a really different thing.&rdquo

This is the very conundrum at the heart of Lister-Jones&rsquo new movie, her directorial debut &ldquoBand Aid.&rdquo The film &mdash which she also stars in and wrote &mdash is about a couple trying to move past the devastation of a miscarriage just as their friends are starting families. But there&rsquos so much unspoken pain between the husband and wife that they begin to fight constantly. So in an effort to curb the bickering, they start a garage band called &ldquoThe Dirty Dishes&rdquo and use the lyrics to vent their marital frustrations.

Zoe Lister-Jones as Anna and Adam Pally as Ben in "Band Aid." (Jacqueline DiMilia / IFC Films)

Lister-Jones hasn&rsquot said just how much of the film comes from personal experience, which is unusual for her because nearly every script she&rsquos written thus far has been autobiographical. Her first feature screenplay, 2010&rsquos &ldquoBreaking Upwards,&rdquo was about the yearlong period when she and her husband, fellow actor and filmmaker Daryl Wein, decided to have an open relationship. The real-life couple co-starred in the film, in which their characters&rsquo names were Daryl and Zoe.

&ldquoBand Aid&rdquo is the first movie Lister-Jones has made without her spouse, whom she met when they were both students at NYU&rsquos Tisch School of the Arts 13 years ago. Wein did serve as an executive producer on the movie, but was barely ever on set. Many of the fights in their own marriage, Lister-Jones says, were beginning to stem from the lack of separation between work and home life.

&ldquoThere was no place that the work ended and our life began,&rdquo she explains, as Wein makes himself dinner in their kitchen, just out of earshot. &ldquoI think this has been a nice respite for both of us. We can give each other notes and watch cuts, but it&rsquos not all-consuming in our daily lives together.&rdquo

Since decamping from Brooklyn&rsquos Fort Greene a few years ago, the couple have been living in a Studio City post-and-beam that&rsquos ripe for a home design magazine tour. Lister-Jones has multiple pairs of custom No.6 clogs by the door. The books in the built-in shelves are organized by color. White sheepskin throws abound. There&rsquos even tumbleweed the couple picked up in the desert during a trip to Joshua Tree that now serves as a piece of avant-garde art.

Their Instagram accounts project an even more enviable lifestyle. In April, they embarked on a road trip across the Southwest, shacking up in rustic ranch cabins and skydiving over the Moab Desert. Wein took numerous photos of his wife wearing oversized hats and bandanas, the majestic Red Rocks rising behind her.

There are no pictures of dirty dishes. But that doesn&rsquot mean they don&rsquot still stack up in the sink sometimes.

&ldquoNow we&rsquore able to share those duties, but we&rsquore 13 years in,&rdquo she says, curling under a blanket on the couch. &ldquoI think it does take time for men and women to learn how to share a space, and a lot of that comes from social condition and patriarchal values that are intrinsic in the way we&rsquore raised. A lot of boys are raised with their mom doing their laundry and dishes and getting away with a lot more than little girls can.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones at home in Studio City. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Growing up in New York, Lister-Jones was raised a staunch feminist. In the fourth grade, she had a school assignment to create her own business. She decided to form an all-female construction company: Big Women Construction.

&ldquoI think it&rsquos been this thing that has always been cellular in me,&rdquo she says, &ldquothat I wanted to create art or something in a collective of women.&rdquo

So when it came time to put together the crew for &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo Lister-Jones decided she wanted to work alongside a group of women. But she knew it would be a challenge to pull together a female production team with enough experience to make &ldquodepartment heads comfortable on a movie of this scale.&rdquo

&ldquoWhich is a total Catch-22,&rdquo she adds. &ldquoBut I wanted to confront that head-on and take risks with some crew members who maybe had less experience, because otherwise, how are these women going to get the experience to begin with?&rdquo

&ldquoThere was a part of me that was interested in subverting a paradigm in order to challenge a system that is really broken,&rdquo she continues. &ldquoEven though there&rsquos been a lot of dialogue around the underrepresentation of women crews, the numbers aren&rsquot changing. In fact, they&rsquore getting worse. I just felt like since I was in a position to do so, it was kind of my duty to.&rdquo

Alongside producer Natalia Anderson &mdash whom Lister-Jones met at work on the set of &ldquoLife in Pieces,&rdquo the CBS family drama she&rsquos been on for two seasons &mdash the filmmaker set out to hire roughly 40 women. It was part of the pitch package she presented to financiers who were considering putting up the film&rsquos budget, a sum Lister-Jones said was less than $5 million.

&ldquoIt was definitely challenging,&rdquo Anderson agrees. &ldquoBut between the two of us, we used all the production resources at our fingertips &mdash posting on job boards for women in film and taking advantage of every relationship we had. But Zoe was never crazed. She handled it with such grace and focus.&rdquo

As a result, the vibe on-set was so &ldquocalm and quiet and efficient,&rdquo Lister-Jones said, that the few male actors kept saying how wonderful they felt surrounded by women. Adam Pally, who plays the actress&rsquo husband in the film, even felt more comfortable getting naked during the sex scenes because he &ldquofelt less judged.&rdquo

&ldquoYeah, I loved this. Men are terrible. We&rsquore the worst,&rdquo Pally said, only partially kidding. &ldquoI&rsquove been telling people since I did this movie that now, all men sound like animated germs in flu commercials to me.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Since the work was acquired by IFC Films after its debut at the Sundance Film Festival in January, Lister-Jones has been asked to take an increasing number of Hollywood meetings. She&rsquos noticed that there seems to be &ldquomore of a mandate&rdquo to hire female directors within the studio system, which she finds encouraging. But everyone keeps asking what she&rsquos going to do next. Fortunately, she&rsquos &ldquovery much a &lsquowhat&rsquos next&rsquo person,&rdquo and is already planning to direct another one of her scripts &mdash one she hasn&rsquot even written yet &mdash next March when she&rsquos on hiatus from &ldquoLife in Pieces.&rdquo

The idea of actually taking a hiatus during her hiatus, however, scares her. Growing up, her mother was a video artist and her father was a conceptual photographer &mdash and both had teaching gigs on the side. &ldquoSo I always thought it was an impossibility to make a livelihood from your art,&rdquo she says. &ldquoThat&rsquos such a trigger from my childhood.&rdquo

In fact, when she was accepted into the conservatory acting program at Tisch, she was reluctant to take the spot because she &ldquowas always apprehensive about putting all of [her] eggs in one basket.&rdquo Which explains, somewhat, why she is continually trying on new hats: Actress, writer, director and, in &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo musician.

&ldquoWhen you&rsquore at a certain stage in your career,&rdquo she says, &ldquoit&rsquos hard to not feel like, &lsquoI hit this benchmark but there&rsquos this other benchmark in the distance and now I have to hit that one.&rsquo When do you decide it&rsquos OK to maybe live in this moment rather than anticipating the next?&rdquo


Zoe Lister-Jones made ‘Band Aid’ with an all-female crew. Your move, Hollywood

Zoe Lister-Jones is 34 years old and has been married for four years. Which means that when she&rsquos at a party, basically every conversation starts with the same question: &ldquoWhen are you going to have kids?&rdquo

&ldquoWe&rsquore getting there,&rdquo she&rsquoll answer, smiling politely. But being childless and in her 30s sometimes makes her feel like a pariah. A few weeks ago, she went to a kid&rsquos birthday party, and she was one of only two women there without offspring.

&ldquoIt&rsquos hard, because there&rsquos a part of me that feels like because I can&rsquot relate to their stage in life, that I&rsquom not bringing something to the table,&rdquo she says. &ldquoI&rsquom such a workhorse that I&rsquove always prioritized my work, and as a woman, that&rsquos a really different thing.&rdquo

This is the very conundrum at the heart of Lister-Jones&rsquo new movie, her directorial debut &ldquoBand Aid.&rdquo The film &mdash which she also stars in and wrote &mdash is about a couple trying to move past the devastation of a miscarriage just as their friends are starting families. But there&rsquos so much unspoken pain between the husband and wife that they begin to fight constantly. So in an effort to curb the bickering, they start a garage band called &ldquoThe Dirty Dishes&rdquo and use the lyrics to vent their marital frustrations.

Zoe Lister-Jones as Anna and Adam Pally as Ben in "Band Aid." (Jacqueline DiMilia / IFC Films)

Lister-Jones hasn&rsquot said just how much of the film comes from personal experience, which is unusual for her because nearly every script she&rsquos written thus far has been autobiographical. Her first feature screenplay, 2010&rsquos &ldquoBreaking Upwards,&rdquo was about the yearlong period when she and her husband, fellow actor and filmmaker Daryl Wein, decided to have an open relationship. The real-life couple co-starred in the film, in which their characters&rsquo names were Daryl and Zoe.

&ldquoBand Aid&rdquo is the first movie Lister-Jones has made without her spouse, whom she met when they were both students at NYU&rsquos Tisch School of the Arts 13 years ago. Wein did serve as an executive producer on the movie, but was barely ever on set. Many of the fights in their own marriage, Lister-Jones says, were beginning to stem from the lack of separation between work and home life.

&ldquoThere was no place that the work ended and our life began,&rdquo she explains, as Wein makes himself dinner in their kitchen, just out of earshot. &ldquoI think this has been a nice respite for both of us. We can give each other notes and watch cuts, but it&rsquos not all-consuming in our daily lives together.&rdquo

Since decamping from Brooklyn&rsquos Fort Greene a few years ago, the couple have been living in a Studio City post-and-beam that&rsquos ripe for a home design magazine tour. Lister-Jones has multiple pairs of custom No.6 clogs by the door. The books in the built-in shelves are organized by color. White sheepskin throws abound. There&rsquos even tumbleweed the couple picked up in the desert during a trip to Joshua Tree that now serves as a piece of avant-garde art.

Their Instagram accounts project an even more enviable lifestyle. In April, they embarked on a road trip across the Southwest, shacking up in rustic ranch cabins and skydiving over the Moab Desert. Wein took numerous photos of his wife wearing oversized hats and bandanas, the majestic Red Rocks rising behind her.

There are no pictures of dirty dishes. But that doesn&rsquot mean they don&rsquot still stack up in the sink sometimes.

&ldquoNow we&rsquore able to share those duties, but we&rsquore 13 years in,&rdquo she says, curling under a blanket on the couch. &ldquoI think it does take time for men and women to learn how to share a space, and a lot of that comes from social condition and patriarchal values that are intrinsic in the way we&rsquore raised. A lot of boys are raised with their mom doing their laundry and dishes and getting away with a lot more than little girls can.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones at home in Studio City. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Growing up in New York, Lister-Jones was raised a staunch feminist. In the fourth grade, she had a school assignment to create her own business. She decided to form an all-female construction company: Big Women Construction.

&ldquoI think it&rsquos been this thing that has always been cellular in me,&rdquo she says, &ldquothat I wanted to create art or something in a collective of women.&rdquo

So when it came time to put together the crew for &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo Lister-Jones decided she wanted to work alongside a group of women. But she knew it would be a challenge to pull together a female production team with enough experience to make &ldquodepartment heads comfortable on a movie of this scale.&rdquo

&ldquoWhich is a total Catch-22,&rdquo she adds. &ldquoBut I wanted to confront that head-on and take risks with some crew members who maybe had less experience, because otherwise, how are these women going to get the experience to begin with?&rdquo

&ldquoThere was a part of me that was interested in subverting a paradigm in order to challenge a system that is really broken,&rdquo she continues. &ldquoEven though there&rsquos been a lot of dialogue around the underrepresentation of women crews, the numbers aren&rsquot changing. In fact, they&rsquore getting worse. I just felt like since I was in a position to do so, it was kind of my duty to.&rdquo

Alongside producer Natalia Anderson &mdash whom Lister-Jones met at work on the set of &ldquoLife in Pieces,&rdquo the CBS family drama she&rsquos been on for two seasons &mdash the filmmaker set out to hire roughly 40 women. It was part of the pitch package she presented to financiers who were considering putting up the film&rsquos budget, a sum Lister-Jones said was less than $5 million.

&ldquoIt was definitely challenging,&rdquo Anderson agrees. &ldquoBut between the two of us, we used all the production resources at our fingertips &mdash posting on job boards for women in film and taking advantage of every relationship we had. But Zoe was never crazed. She handled it with such grace and focus.&rdquo

As a result, the vibe on-set was so &ldquocalm and quiet and efficient,&rdquo Lister-Jones said, that the few male actors kept saying how wonderful they felt surrounded by women. Adam Pally, who plays the actress&rsquo husband in the film, even felt more comfortable getting naked during the sex scenes because he &ldquofelt less judged.&rdquo

&ldquoYeah, I loved this. Men are terrible. We&rsquore the worst,&rdquo Pally said, only partially kidding. &ldquoI&rsquove been telling people since I did this movie that now, all men sound like animated germs in flu commercials to me.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Since the work was acquired by IFC Films after its debut at the Sundance Film Festival in January, Lister-Jones has been asked to take an increasing number of Hollywood meetings. She&rsquos noticed that there seems to be &ldquomore of a mandate&rdquo to hire female directors within the studio system, which she finds encouraging. But everyone keeps asking what she&rsquos going to do next. Fortunately, she&rsquos &ldquovery much a &lsquowhat&rsquos next&rsquo person,&rdquo and is already planning to direct another one of her scripts &mdash one she hasn&rsquot even written yet &mdash next March when she&rsquos on hiatus from &ldquoLife in Pieces.&rdquo

The idea of actually taking a hiatus during her hiatus, however, scares her. Growing up, her mother was a video artist and her father was a conceptual photographer &mdash and both had teaching gigs on the side. &ldquoSo I always thought it was an impossibility to make a livelihood from your art,&rdquo she says. &ldquoThat&rsquos such a trigger from my childhood.&rdquo

In fact, when she was accepted into the conservatory acting program at Tisch, she was reluctant to take the spot because she &ldquowas always apprehensive about putting all of [her] eggs in one basket.&rdquo Which explains, somewhat, why she is continually trying on new hats: Actress, writer, director and, in &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo musician.

&ldquoWhen you&rsquore at a certain stage in your career,&rdquo she says, &ldquoit&rsquos hard to not feel like, &lsquoI hit this benchmark but there&rsquos this other benchmark in the distance and now I have to hit that one.&rsquo When do you decide it&rsquos OK to maybe live in this moment rather than anticipating the next?&rdquo


Zoe Lister-Jones made ‘Band Aid’ with an all-female crew. Your move, Hollywood

Zoe Lister-Jones is 34 years old and has been married for four years. Which means that when she&rsquos at a party, basically every conversation starts with the same question: &ldquoWhen are you going to have kids?&rdquo

&ldquoWe&rsquore getting there,&rdquo she&rsquoll answer, smiling politely. But being childless and in her 30s sometimes makes her feel like a pariah. A few weeks ago, she went to a kid&rsquos birthday party, and she was one of only two women there without offspring.

&ldquoIt&rsquos hard, because there&rsquos a part of me that feels like because I can&rsquot relate to their stage in life, that I&rsquom not bringing something to the table,&rdquo she says. &ldquoI&rsquom such a workhorse that I&rsquove always prioritized my work, and as a woman, that&rsquos a really different thing.&rdquo

This is the very conundrum at the heart of Lister-Jones&rsquo new movie, her directorial debut &ldquoBand Aid.&rdquo The film &mdash which she also stars in and wrote &mdash is about a couple trying to move past the devastation of a miscarriage just as their friends are starting families. But there&rsquos so much unspoken pain between the husband and wife that they begin to fight constantly. So in an effort to curb the bickering, they start a garage band called &ldquoThe Dirty Dishes&rdquo and use the lyrics to vent their marital frustrations.

Zoe Lister-Jones as Anna and Adam Pally as Ben in "Band Aid." (Jacqueline DiMilia / IFC Films)

Lister-Jones hasn&rsquot said just how much of the film comes from personal experience, which is unusual for her because nearly every script she&rsquos written thus far has been autobiographical. Her first feature screenplay, 2010&rsquos &ldquoBreaking Upwards,&rdquo was about the yearlong period when she and her husband, fellow actor and filmmaker Daryl Wein, decided to have an open relationship. The real-life couple co-starred in the film, in which their characters&rsquo names were Daryl and Zoe.

&ldquoBand Aid&rdquo is the first movie Lister-Jones has made without her spouse, whom she met when they were both students at NYU&rsquos Tisch School of the Arts 13 years ago. Wein did serve as an executive producer on the movie, but was barely ever on set. Many of the fights in their own marriage, Lister-Jones says, were beginning to stem from the lack of separation between work and home life.

&ldquoThere was no place that the work ended and our life began,&rdquo she explains, as Wein makes himself dinner in their kitchen, just out of earshot. &ldquoI think this has been a nice respite for both of us. We can give each other notes and watch cuts, but it&rsquos not all-consuming in our daily lives together.&rdquo

Since decamping from Brooklyn&rsquos Fort Greene a few years ago, the couple have been living in a Studio City post-and-beam that&rsquos ripe for a home design magazine tour. Lister-Jones has multiple pairs of custom No.6 clogs by the door. The books in the built-in shelves are organized by color. White sheepskin throws abound. There&rsquos even tumbleweed the couple picked up in the desert during a trip to Joshua Tree that now serves as a piece of avant-garde art.

Their Instagram accounts project an even more enviable lifestyle. In April, they embarked on a road trip across the Southwest, shacking up in rustic ranch cabins and skydiving over the Moab Desert. Wein took numerous photos of his wife wearing oversized hats and bandanas, the majestic Red Rocks rising behind her.

There are no pictures of dirty dishes. But that doesn&rsquot mean they don&rsquot still stack up in the sink sometimes.

&ldquoNow we&rsquore able to share those duties, but we&rsquore 13 years in,&rdquo she says, curling under a blanket on the couch. &ldquoI think it does take time for men and women to learn how to share a space, and a lot of that comes from social condition and patriarchal values that are intrinsic in the way we&rsquore raised. A lot of boys are raised with their mom doing their laundry and dishes and getting away with a lot more than little girls can.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones at home in Studio City. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Growing up in New York, Lister-Jones was raised a staunch feminist. In the fourth grade, she had a school assignment to create her own business. She decided to form an all-female construction company: Big Women Construction.

&ldquoI think it&rsquos been this thing that has always been cellular in me,&rdquo she says, &ldquothat I wanted to create art or something in a collective of women.&rdquo

So when it came time to put together the crew for &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo Lister-Jones decided she wanted to work alongside a group of women. But she knew it would be a challenge to pull together a female production team with enough experience to make &ldquodepartment heads comfortable on a movie of this scale.&rdquo

&ldquoWhich is a total Catch-22,&rdquo she adds. &ldquoBut I wanted to confront that head-on and take risks with some crew members who maybe had less experience, because otherwise, how are these women going to get the experience to begin with?&rdquo

&ldquoThere was a part of me that was interested in subverting a paradigm in order to challenge a system that is really broken,&rdquo she continues. &ldquoEven though there&rsquos been a lot of dialogue around the underrepresentation of women crews, the numbers aren&rsquot changing. In fact, they&rsquore getting worse. I just felt like since I was in a position to do so, it was kind of my duty to.&rdquo

Alongside producer Natalia Anderson &mdash whom Lister-Jones met at work on the set of &ldquoLife in Pieces,&rdquo the CBS family drama she&rsquos been on for two seasons &mdash the filmmaker set out to hire roughly 40 women. It was part of the pitch package she presented to financiers who were considering putting up the film&rsquos budget, a sum Lister-Jones said was less than $5 million.

&ldquoIt was definitely challenging,&rdquo Anderson agrees. &ldquoBut between the two of us, we used all the production resources at our fingertips &mdash posting on job boards for women in film and taking advantage of every relationship we had. But Zoe was never crazed. She handled it with such grace and focus.&rdquo

As a result, the vibe on-set was so &ldquocalm and quiet and efficient,&rdquo Lister-Jones said, that the few male actors kept saying how wonderful they felt surrounded by women. Adam Pally, who plays the actress&rsquo husband in the film, even felt more comfortable getting naked during the sex scenes because he &ldquofelt less judged.&rdquo

&ldquoYeah, I loved this. Men are terrible. We&rsquore the worst,&rdquo Pally said, only partially kidding. &ldquoI&rsquove been telling people since I did this movie that now, all men sound like animated germs in flu commercials to me.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Since the work was acquired by IFC Films after its debut at the Sundance Film Festival in January, Lister-Jones has been asked to take an increasing number of Hollywood meetings. She&rsquos noticed that there seems to be &ldquomore of a mandate&rdquo to hire female directors within the studio system, which she finds encouraging. But everyone keeps asking what she&rsquos going to do next. Fortunately, she&rsquos &ldquovery much a &lsquowhat&rsquos next&rsquo person,&rdquo and is already planning to direct another one of her scripts &mdash one she hasn&rsquot even written yet &mdash next March when she&rsquos on hiatus from &ldquoLife in Pieces.&rdquo

The idea of actually taking a hiatus during her hiatus, however, scares her. Growing up, her mother was a video artist and her father was a conceptual photographer &mdash and both had teaching gigs on the side. &ldquoSo I always thought it was an impossibility to make a livelihood from your art,&rdquo she says. &ldquoThat&rsquos such a trigger from my childhood.&rdquo

In fact, when she was accepted into the conservatory acting program at Tisch, she was reluctant to take the spot because she &ldquowas always apprehensive about putting all of [her] eggs in one basket.&rdquo Which explains, somewhat, why she is continually trying on new hats: Actress, writer, director and, in &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo musician.

&ldquoWhen you&rsquore at a certain stage in your career,&rdquo she says, &ldquoit&rsquos hard to not feel like, &lsquoI hit this benchmark but there&rsquos this other benchmark in the distance and now I have to hit that one.&rsquo When do you decide it&rsquos OK to maybe live in this moment rather than anticipating the next?&rdquo


Zoe Lister-Jones made ‘Band Aid’ with an all-female crew. Your move, Hollywood

Zoe Lister-Jones is 34 years old and has been married for four years. Which means that when she&rsquos at a party, basically every conversation starts with the same question: &ldquoWhen are you going to have kids?&rdquo

&ldquoWe&rsquore getting there,&rdquo she&rsquoll answer, smiling politely. But being childless and in her 30s sometimes makes her feel like a pariah. A few weeks ago, she went to a kid&rsquos birthday party, and she was one of only two women there without offspring.

&ldquoIt&rsquos hard, because there&rsquos a part of me that feels like because I can&rsquot relate to their stage in life, that I&rsquom not bringing something to the table,&rdquo she says. &ldquoI&rsquom such a workhorse that I&rsquove always prioritized my work, and as a woman, that&rsquos a really different thing.&rdquo

This is the very conundrum at the heart of Lister-Jones&rsquo new movie, her directorial debut &ldquoBand Aid.&rdquo The film &mdash which she also stars in and wrote &mdash is about a couple trying to move past the devastation of a miscarriage just as their friends are starting families. But there&rsquos so much unspoken pain between the husband and wife that they begin to fight constantly. So in an effort to curb the bickering, they start a garage band called &ldquoThe Dirty Dishes&rdquo and use the lyrics to vent their marital frustrations.

Zoe Lister-Jones as Anna and Adam Pally as Ben in "Band Aid." (Jacqueline DiMilia / IFC Films)

Lister-Jones hasn&rsquot said just how much of the film comes from personal experience, which is unusual for her because nearly every script she&rsquos written thus far has been autobiographical. Her first feature screenplay, 2010&rsquos &ldquoBreaking Upwards,&rdquo was about the yearlong period when she and her husband, fellow actor and filmmaker Daryl Wein, decided to have an open relationship. The real-life couple co-starred in the film, in which their characters&rsquo names were Daryl and Zoe.

&ldquoBand Aid&rdquo is the first movie Lister-Jones has made without her spouse, whom she met when they were both students at NYU&rsquos Tisch School of the Arts 13 years ago. Wein did serve as an executive producer on the movie, but was barely ever on set. Many of the fights in their own marriage, Lister-Jones says, were beginning to stem from the lack of separation between work and home life.

&ldquoThere was no place that the work ended and our life began,&rdquo she explains, as Wein makes himself dinner in their kitchen, just out of earshot. &ldquoI think this has been a nice respite for both of us. We can give each other notes and watch cuts, but it&rsquos not all-consuming in our daily lives together.&rdquo

Since decamping from Brooklyn&rsquos Fort Greene a few years ago, the couple have been living in a Studio City post-and-beam that&rsquos ripe for a home design magazine tour. Lister-Jones has multiple pairs of custom No.6 clogs by the door. The books in the built-in shelves are organized by color. White sheepskin throws abound. There&rsquos even tumbleweed the couple picked up in the desert during a trip to Joshua Tree that now serves as a piece of avant-garde art.

Their Instagram accounts project an even more enviable lifestyle. In April, they embarked on a road trip across the Southwest, shacking up in rustic ranch cabins and skydiving over the Moab Desert. Wein took numerous photos of his wife wearing oversized hats and bandanas, the majestic Red Rocks rising behind her.

There are no pictures of dirty dishes. But that doesn&rsquot mean they don&rsquot still stack up in the sink sometimes.

&ldquoNow we&rsquore able to share those duties, but we&rsquore 13 years in,&rdquo she says, curling under a blanket on the couch. &ldquoI think it does take time for men and women to learn how to share a space, and a lot of that comes from social condition and patriarchal values that are intrinsic in the way we&rsquore raised. A lot of boys are raised with their mom doing their laundry and dishes and getting away with a lot more than little girls can.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones at home in Studio City. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Growing up in New York, Lister-Jones was raised a staunch feminist. In the fourth grade, she had a school assignment to create her own business. She decided to form an all-female construction company: Big Women Construction.

&ldquoI think it&rsquos been this thing that has always been cellular in me,&rdquo she says, &ldquothat I wanted to create art or something in a collective of women.&rdquo

So when it came time to put together the crew for &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo Lister-Jones decided she wanted to work alongside a group of women. But she knew it would be a challenge to pull together a female production team with enough experience to make &ldquodepartment heads comfortable on a movie of this scale.&rdquo

&ldquoWhich is a total Catch-22,&rdquo she adds. &ldquoBut I wanted to confront that head-on and take risks with some crew members who maybe had less experience, because otherwise, how are these women going to get the experience to begin with?&rdquo

&ldquoThere was a part of me that was interested in subverting a paradigm in order to challenge a system that is really broken,&rdquo she continues. &ldquoEven though there&rsquos been a lot of dialogue around the underrepresentation of women crews, the numbers aren&rsquot changing. In fact, they&rsquore getting worse. I just felt like since I was in a position to do so, it was kind of my duty to.&rdquo

Alongside producer Natalia Anderson &mdash whom Lister-Jones met at work on the set of &ldquoLife in Pieces,&rdquo the CBS family drama she&rsquos been on for two seasons &mdash the filmmaker set out to hire roughly 40 women. It was part of the pitch package she presented to financiers who were considering putting up the film&rsquos budget, a sum Lister-Jones said was less than $5 million.

&ldquoIt was definitely challenging,&rdquo Anderson agrees. &ldquoBut between the two of us, we used all the production resources at our fingertips &mdash posting on job boards for women in film and taking advantage of every relationship we had. But Zoe was never crazed. She handled it with such grace and focus.&rdquo

As a result, the vibe on-set was so &ldquocalm and quiet and efficient,&rdquo Lister-Jones said, that the few male actors kept saying how wonderful they felt surrounded by women. Adam Pally, who plays the actress&rsquo husband in the film, even felt more comfortable getting naked during the sex scenes because he &ldquofelt less judged.&rdquo

&ldquoYeah, I loved this. Men are terrible. We&rsquore the worst,&rdquo Pally said, only partially kidding. &ldquoI&rsquove been telling people since I did this movie that now, all men sound like animated germs in flu commercials to me.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Since the work was acquired by IFC Films after its debut at the Sundance Film Festival in January, Lister-Jones has been asked to take an increasing number of Hollywood meetings. She&rsquos noticed that there seems to be &ldquomore of a mandate&rdquo to hire female directors within the studio system, which she finds encouraging. But everyone keeps asking what she&rsquos going to do next. Fortunately, she&rsquos &ldquovery much a &lsquowhat&rsquos next&rsquo person,&rdquo and is already planning to direct another one of her scripts &mdash one she hasn&rsquot even written yet &mdash next March when she&rsquos on hiatus from &ldquoLife in Pieces.&rdquo

The idea of actually taking a hiatus during her hiatus, however, scares her. Growing up, her mother was a video artist and her father was a conceptual photographer &mdash and both had teaching gigs on the side. &ldquoSo I always thought it was an impossibility to make a livelihood from your art,&rdquo she says. &ldquoThat&rsquos such a trigger from my childhood.&rdquo

In fact, when she was accepted into the conservatory acting program at Tisch, she was reluctant to take the spot because she &ldquowas always apprehensive about putting all of [her] eggs in one basket.&rdquo Which explains, somewhat, why she is continually trying on new hats: Actress, writer, director and, in &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo musician.

&ldquoWhen you&rsquore at a certain stage in your career,&rdquo she says, &ldquoit&rsquos hard to not feel like, &lsquoI hit this benchmark but there&rsquos this other benchmark in the distance and now I have to hit that one.&rsquo When do you decide it&rsquos OK to maybe live in this moment rather than anticipating the next?&rdquo


Zoe Lister-Jones made ‘Band Aid’ with an all-female crew. Your move, Hollywood

Zoe Lister-Jones is 34 years old and has been married for four years. Which means that when she&rsquos at a party, basically every conversation starts with the same question: &ldquoWhen are you going to have kids?&rdquo

&ldquoWe&rsquore getting there,&rdquo she&rsquoll answer, smiling politely. But being childless and in her 30s sometimes makes her feel like a pariah. A few weeks ago, she went to a kid&rsquos birthday party, and she was one of only two women there without offspring.

&ldquoIt&rsquos hard, because there&rsquos a part of me that feels like because I can&rsquot relate to their stage in life, that I&rsquom not bringing something to the table,&rdquo she says. &ldquoI&rsquom such a workhorse that I&rsquove always prioritized my work, and as a woman, that&rsquos a really different thing.&rdquo

This is the very conundrum at the heart of Lister-Jones&rsquo new movie, her directorial debut &ldquoBand Aid.&rdquo The film &mdash which she also stars in and wrote &mdash is about a couple trying to move past the devastation of a miscarriage just as their friends are starting families. But there&rsquos so much unspoken pain between the husband and wife that they begin to fight constantly. So in an effort to curb the bickering, they start a garage band called &ldquoThe Dirty Dishes&rdquo and use the lyrics to vent their marital frustrations.

Zoe Lister-Jones as Anna and Adam Pally as Ben in "Band Aid." (Jacqueline DiMilia / IFC Films)

Lister-Jones hasn&rsquot said just how much of the film comes from personal experience, which is unusual for her because nearly every script she&rsquos written thus far has been autobiographical. Her first feature screenplay, 2010&rsquos &ldquoBreaking Upwards,&rdquo was about the yearlong period when she and her husband, fellow actor and filmmaker Daryl Wein, decided to have an open relationship. The real-life couple co-starred in the film, in which their characters&rsquo names were Daryl and Zoe.

&ldquoBand Aid&rdquo is the first movie Lister-Jones has made without her spouse, whom she met when they were both students at NYU&rsquos Tisch School of the Arts 13 years ago. Wein did serve as an executive producer on the movie, but was barely ever on set. Many of the fights in their own marriage, Lister-Jones says, were beginning to stem from the lack of separation between work and home life.

&ldquoThere was no place that the work ended and our life began,&rdquo she explains, as Wein makes himself dinner in their kitchen, just out of earshot. &ldquoI think this has been a nice respite for both of us. We can give each other notes and watch cuts, but it&rsquos not all-consuming in our daily lives together.&rdquo

Since decamping from Brooklyn&rsquos Fort Greene a few years ago, the couple have been living in a Studio City post-and-beam that&rsquos ripe for a home design magazine tour. Lister-Jones has multiple pairs of custom No.6 clogs by the door. The books in the built-in shelves are organized by color. White sheepskin throws abound. There&rsquos even tumbleweed the couple picked up in the desert during a trip to Joshua Tree that now serves as a piece of avant-garde art.

Their Instagram accounts project an even more enviable lifestyle. In April, they embarked on a road trip across the Southwest, shacking up in rustic ranch cabins and skydiving over the Moab Desert. Wein took numerous photos of his wife wearing oversized hats and bandanas, the majestic Red Rocks rising behind her.

There are no pictures of dirty dishes. But that doesn&rsquot mean they don&rsquot still stack up in the sink sometimes.

&ldquoNow we&rsquore able to share those duties, but we&rsquore 13 years in,&rdquo she says, curling under a blanket on the couch. &ldquoI think it does take time for men and women to learn how to share a space, and a lot of that comes from social condition and patriarchal values that are intrinsic in the way we&rsquore raised. A lot of boys are raised with their mom doing their laundry and dishes and getting away with a lot more than little girls can.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones at home in Studio City. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Growing up in New York, Lister-Jones was raised a staunch feminist. In the fourth grade, she had a school assignment to create her own business. She decided to form an all-female construction company: Big Women Construction.

&ldquoI think it&rsquos been this thing that has always been cellular in me,&rdquo she says, &ldquothat I wanted to create art or something in a collective of women.&rdquo

So when it came time to put together the crew for &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo Lister-Jones decided she wanted to work alongside a group of women. But she knew it would be a challenge to pull together a female production team with enough experience to make &ldquodepartment heads comfortable on a movie of this scale.&rdquo

&ldquoWhich is a total Catch-22,&rdquo she adds. &ldquoBut I wanted to confront that head-on and take risks with some crew members who maybe had less experience, because otherwise, how are these women going to get the experience to begin with?&rdquo

&ldquoThere was a part of me that was interested in subverting a paradigm in order to challenge a system that is really broken,&rdquo she continues. &ldquoEven though there&rsquos been a lot of dialogue around the underrepresentation of women crews, the numbers aren&rsquot changing. In fact, they&rsquore getting worse. I just felt like since I was in a position to do so, it was kind of my duty to.&rdquo

Alongside producer Natalia Anderson &mdash whom Lister-Jones met at work on the set of &ldquoLife in Pieces,&rdquo the CBS family drama she&rsquos been on for two seasons &mdash the filmmaker set out to hire roughly 40 women. It was part of the pitch package she presented to financiers who were considering putting up the film&rsquos budget, a sum Lister-Jones said was less than $5 million.

&ldquoIt was definitely challenging,&rdquo Anderson agrees. &ldquoBut between the two of us, we used all the production resources at our fingertips &mdash posting on job boards for women in film and taking advantage of every relationship we had. But Zoe was never crazed. She handled it with such grace and focus.&rdquo

As a result, the vibe on-set was so &ldquocalm and quiet and efficient,&rdquo Lister-Jones said, that the few male actors kept saying how wonderful they felt surrounded by women. Adam Pally, who plays the actress&rsquo husband in the film, even felt more comfortable getting naked during the sex scenes because he &ldquofelt less judged.&rdquo

&ldquoYeah, I loved this. Men are terrible. We&rsquore the worst,&rdquo Pally said, only partially kidding. &ldquoI&rsquove been telling people since I did this movie that now, all men sound like animated germs in flu commercials to me.&rdquo

Actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones. (Jay L. Clendenin / Los Angeles Times)

Since the work was acquired by IFC Films after its debut at the Sundance Film Festival in January, Lister-Jones has been asked to take an increasing number of Hollywood meetings. She&rsquos noticed that there seems to be &ldquomore of a mandate&rdquo to hire female directors within the studio system, which she finds encouraging. But everyone keeps asking what she&rsquos going to do next. Fortunately, she&rsquos &ldquovery much a &lsquowhat&rsquos next&rsquo person,&rdquo and is already planning to direct another one of her scripts &mdash one she hasn&rsquot even written yet &mdash next March when she&rsquos on hiatus from &ldquoLife in Pieces.&rdquo

The idea of actually taking a hiatus during her hiatus, however, scares her. Growing up, her mother was a video artist and her father was a conceptual photographer &mdash and both had teaching gigs on the side. &ldquoSo I always thought it was an impossibility to make a livelihood from your art,&rdquo she says. &ldquoThat&rsquos such a trigger from my childhood.&rdquo

In fact, when she was accepted into the conservatory acting program at Tisch, she was reluctant to take the spot because she &ldquowas always apprehensive about putting all of [her] eggs in one basket.&rdquo Which explains, somewhat, why she is continually trying on new hats: Actress, writer, director and, in &ldquoBand Aid,&rdquo musician.

&ldquoWhen you&rsquore at a certain stage in your career,&rdquo she says, &ldquoit&rsquos hard to not feel like, &lsquoI hit this benchmark but there&rsquos this other benchmark in the distance and now I have to hit that one.&rsquo When do you decide it&rsquos OK to maybe live in this moment rather than anticipating the next?&rdquo


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